Forums - What is On Akuma's Back? Show all 20 posts from this thread on one page Forums (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/index.php) - Fighting Game Discussion (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=8) -- What is On Akuma's Back? (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1703) Posted by JAG on 03:30:2001 06:35 AM: What is the kanji character on Akuma's back called? A Japanese guy told me it means "monster" or something to that effect. Anyone know the exact Japanese word? Posted by BrazilionBH on 03:30:2001 06:41 AM: i think it means eternal sleep or death somthin like that.. Posted by kaseijin on 03:30:2001 06:41 AM: 'ten' - it means 'sky' & 'heaven'. (See also Three Days of the Condor) Still don't know how this relates to him winning though. The more complicated one that appears in other situations is 'metsu' - destruction. Posted by JAG on 03:30:2001 06:47 AM: quote: Originally posted by kaseijin: 'ten' - it means 'sky' & 'heaven'. (See also Three Days of the Condor) The character on Akuma's back is NOT ten, which as you said, means sky. It looks very similar to the character ten, the only difference is that the top horizontal line is diagonally slanted (on the character ten, both horizontal lines are straight). This was pointed out to me by a native Japanese speaker. I forgot to ask him what the character is called, though. Posted by kaseijin on 03:30:2001 07:02 AM: That explains a lot, thanks! I just checked and it means early death/calamity. Have a look: yo http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/-4...x=t&ivalue=5470 metsu http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/-4...x=t&ivalue=4c47 quote: Originally posted by JAG: The character on Akuma's back is NOT ten, which as you said, means sky. It looks very similar to the character ten, the only difference is that the top horizontal line is diagonally slanted (on the character ten, both horizontal lines are straight). This was pointed out to me by a native Japanese speaker. I forgot to ask him what the character is called, though. Posted by JAG on 03:30:2001 07:08 AM: Cool, thanks for finding that out for me! It's funny how a subtle difference in the shape of a character can make it have a completely different meaning, eh? Posted by AKUMA2000 on 03:30:2001 10:37 AM: quote: kaseijin:That explains a lot, thanks! I just checked and it means early death/calamity. Have a look: yo http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/-4...x=t&ivalue=5470 metsu http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/-4...x=t&ivalue=4c47 I guess Akuma has truly gone "beyond the limits" physically & spiritually of what the human body can do....with all those meanings of the kanji, i see why the power of the raging demon was sealed many years ago. That's to much power for a person to harness but Gouki defied the odds and mastered it.....costing him his soul. http://members.tripod.lycos.com/~Streetfighter_3/akuma-flames2.gif Akuma's Lair "On The Battlefield...It's All About Survival" Posted by LOLO on 03:30:2001 11:26 AM: quote: Originally posted by JAG: The character on Akuma's back is NOT ten, which as you said, means sky. It looks very similar to the character ten, the only difference is that the top horizontal line is diagonally slanted (on the character ten, both horizontal lines are straight). This was pointed out to me by a native Japanese speaker. I forgot to ask him what the character is called, though. huh?? what are u talking about?? i thought it's the "sky" word on Akuma's back~~ the upper horizontal line is horizontal isn't it?? definitely not the "monster" kanji~~ lol... this is sthg really funny that keeps happening in the forum~~ that ppl will say sthg it means "ten" which sucks coz they don't even know "ten" is only the pronouciation in Mandarin~~ KEN http://members.home.net/lolo603/BadBadtzMaru.gif -Engineering Rules- Posted by Sky on 03:30:2001 11:53 AM: Yeah it's Sky for sure. Heh what does it say on Evil Ryu? Cuz when you do the raging demon in CvS for Evil Ryu it says something different. Could be like dragon or something (cuz Ryu does mean dragon in japanese) ------------------------------------ The legend is back, I shoot suckers like crack and attack with my tire track, as big as pay back the red, black and grey, seize the day, hit the brakes just like a revolution, here to say I break the lock, bust my chops, open shot and never wait for the cops to say stop Kiss your girl before you fade like an illusion I live a life in an evolution. Posted by kaseijin on 03:31:2001 01:47 PM: The final word. The kanji on Akuma's back is 'ten'. I went back and looked at some promo art and it can't be 'yo' (premature death/calamity). The top stroke of the kanji is clearly drawn from left to right, and while it's at a bit of an angle sometimes it's definitely not drawn right to left, which it would have to be if it were to be 'yo'. So why does 'sky' appear when he's won. Well I checked a Japanese dictionary, and one of its meanings is 'beyond human power', which fits in perfectly. LOLO - 'ten' is the pronunciation used in Japanese when the kanji stands alone. It does have other readings used in different contexts though. http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/-4...x=t&ivalue=4537 Sky - The kanji that appears behind Evil Ryu in CvS is 'metsu', meaning destruction. http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/-a...WW=&EE=&scope=b Incidentally, although Ryu can mean dragon, the kanji used for Ryu's name doesn't. It means 'noble'. http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/-4...x=t&ivalue=4e34 Posted by AKUMA2000 on 03:31:2001 03:58 PM: quote: [i]Originally posted by kaseijin:So why does 'sky' appear when he's won. Well I checked a Japanese dictionary, and one of its meanings is 'beyond human power', which fits in perfectly. I figured "Beyond The Limits" was a more defined term....exceeding the physical & spiritual capabilites of the human body... Posted by arcticninja on 03:31:2001 04:47 PM: It's has to be "Ten" because they even say that in the game. If you beat Alpha 3 with Adon, it says that he is searching for the man with "Ten" on his back. Also, "Ten" can be interpreted to mean destiny; as in, if you're hit by the Shun Goku Satsu, you have met your destiny. Posted by Hellice on 03:31:2001 07:36 PM: Pronounced "ten" in Japanese and means sky/heavens. Posted by strider_hien on 03:31:2001 08:01 PM: I'm pretty sure that it is "ten". I've done the Shun Goku Satsu a lot in Alpha1-3 and SF3:3S And it HAS to be 10. However, i don't get why a chinese/mandarin word, is in a game made by japanese people.... Posted by strider_hien on 03:31:2001 08:02 PM: quote: Originally posted by strider_hien I'm pretty sure that it is "ten". I've done the Shun Goku Satsu a lot in Alpha1-3 and SF3:3S And it HAS to be 10. However, i don't get why a chinese/mandarin word, is in a game made by japanese people.... soree, i meant "it HAS to be ten" since you guys spelt it that way, i guess i just typed the number my accident. Posted by KusanagiClan on 03:31:2001 08:08 PM: That's because a lot of the simpler chinese and japanese characters are the exact same in both languages. When spoken they are probably pronounced differently but when written there are many 'letters' that are shared between the two languages. “V.... Posted by strider_hien on 03:31:2001 08:09 PM: quote: Originally posted by KusanagiClan That's because a lot of the simpler chinese and japanese characters are the exact same in both languages. When spoken they are probably pronounced differently but when written there are many 'letters' that are shared between the two languages. “V.... oh, i c, i c So is it? or is it now "ten" Posted by CoLoNeL on 03:31:2001 08:10 PM: Look, im a chinese. and i can read/write/talk in chinese. that symbol "ten" on his back is simply a character that means "sky". nothing more or less to it. it probably means that hes from heaven or something like that. thats all it means. it doesnt mean hes a demon or whatever. If it was mean to be something more than just sky, it would have other characters to go with it to make a "word" or a "phrase". Posted by arcticninja on 03:31:2001 08:11 PM: quote: Originally posted by strider_hien However, i don't get why a chinese/mandarin word, is in a game made by japanese people.... It isn't a Chinese word at all. That's a Japanese kanji which, although the symbols are the same (usually), the meanings are different (usually). Posted by CoLoNeL on 03:31:2001 08:21 PM: Ok, ill reply once more. maybe in japanese it means something different. but it probably just mean either: a) the sky. hes from above b)he is a god. I think if you watch the ending in A2 or A1, you can see that Akuma is in the great walls of china. maybe hes not japanese. maybe hes chinese. oh well, who knows. All times are GMT. The time now is 11:19 PM. Show all 20 posts from this thread on one page Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.2.4 Copyright © Jelsoft Enterprises Limited 2000, 2001.